Art Does Not Know How To Deceive

Art Does Not Know How To Deceive
Art Does Not Know How To Deceive

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- How important is it for you to be successful?

- It's great because there are more opportunities.

- Do you care about the price of your work? Do you check how they are sold at auctions, for example?

- Well no. When buying a work of art, what are you really getting? First of all, the obligation to take care of him. Because the work still belongs to the author, his name bears on it. The most you get is a commitment to make sure she's okay. (laughs) When you create a work of art, you do not invent something new, but rather determine the means by which you will embody your ideas, absorb what is happening around you, and pass it on. In this case, you are more of a servant (art - approx.).

Fantasizing is much more fun than constantly thinking about real things.

- In your works you use different materials: clay, bronze, printed aluminum, different types of paints. What determines the choice?

- As I said, I perceive myself as a servant, so it is strange to be fixed only, for example, on marble. If simple clay conveys the idea better - I choose it, if I need color, then I take paints. I like variety: you can do work that communicates something in a more conceptual manner, or vice versa, you can directly state something. You can even do a job that will be entirely devoted to yourself. There are so many different ways to create art that you shouldn't limit yourself. It's like dealing with people - you can interact with them in different ways.

Sculptures by Urs Fischer on display at the Little Ax exhibition at Garage
Sculptures by Urs Fischer on display at the Little Ax exhibition at Garage

Sculptures by Urs Fischer on display at the Little Ax exhibition at Garage

- Speaking specifically about the YES project, which you started in 2011 (to create clay sculptures on a specific site, Urs Fischer attracts everyone, and then catalogs the result. For the project on the Arts Square opposite the Garage Museum, 200 tons of clay were prepared - approx.). This time it is in the open air, the rain is washing away the clay, children and adults, amateurs and professionals are working on it. What is it for you, since this is not the first time you return to the same idea?

- It has no beginning and no end, it always represents what it is at the moment. When I paint a picture, I can say: "Everything is finished." And she remains in this state forever. If we are talking about YES, this is the type of work whose appearance is changing all the time: there is no given final form for it. I even like the idea that the sculptures are in the open air: they can fall and break accidentally when they are kicked, then someone walks over them because they think they are rubbish and they turn into even smaller fragments. But then the rain unites everything - new and old, broken and in perfect condition. Broken objects that become part of a whole and thus become one are a great idea.

Sculpture by Urs Fischer in the "Garage"
Sculpture by Urs Fischer in the "Garage"

Sculpture by Urs Fischer in the Garage © Garage

- Can you imagine that at some point you will stop doing art?

- Of course.

- And what would you do instead of him?

- I like architecture and I like people. There is so much to do! In general, I think that fantasizing is much more interesting than constantly thinking about real things.

- The installation in the museum looks quite surreal, incorporating many different fantasies.

- Yes, it is collected bit by bit from many images.

Urs Fischer
Urs Fischer

Urs Fischer © Adrian Gaut

- All these sculptures, in your opinion, are part of one whole, they should be perceived together, or are they all independent objects?

- No, they all exist separately. Each of them can be placed in any space.

- In a recent interview, I read that you don't care what art critics think of your work.

- No! I love reading this. If these reviews are written scrupulously, thoroughly, I love them very much. Of course, they do not help me in creating works. And when someone writes unpleasant things, it, of course, upsets me, like any person.

The quality of work always determines its future destiny.

- Does your family help you with your work? Do you discuss what you are working on with them?

- The family helps, yes. For example, when I was creating small sculptures, my sister came to me in New York. We sat down opposite each other: she wrote a book on a laptop, I sculpted, we chatted from time to time - and we spent the whole day. Therefore, I can say for sure: yes, my family is taking part (in the creative process - approx.). (laughs) Or here's a chair on the second floor of Garage that has become part of a sculpture - my father made it.

Koyo Kowo and Urs Fisher
Koyo Kowo and Urs Fisher

Koyo Kowo and Urs Fisher

- Are you happy in America?

- Yes. But I was born in Europe, and, of course, in Russia I feel much closer to my native land than where I have been living for the past 18 years.

- Before America, you spent many years in the Netherlands and in Germany. Did you decide to leave Europe because it was uncomfortable or boring?

- When I was a teenager, I dreamed that one day I would go far, far away, I just lived in fantasies and followed them. So America became my “far, far away”.

- Don't you miss?

- In Switzerland - no, in Europe - yes. (laughs)

- Then you can come back again?

- Why not. I fantasized about that too.

- Straight out of fantasy!

- Yes!

- Do you believe in friendship between artists?

- Yes, as well as between any people. In any team, of course, difficult relationships can arise, envy or jealousy. But it seems to me that it is very important to communicate with each other, share opinions, share in principle. This allows you to look at what has been done or what is happening from a different angle, to share emotions or political views - this applies to everything, not just art, you know?

Sculpture by Urs Fischer in the "Garage"
Sculpture by Urs Fischer in the "Garage"

Sculpture by Urs Fischer in the Garage © Garage

- The ability to conduct a dialogue allows you to maintain adequacy.

- Exactly. People may even say that you are nothing, but this is better than being alone in your own thoughts. And it is definitely better, because you will hear the truth or another opinion. Art does not know how to deceive. People in the arts themselves can lie, but that won't work in the long run. Art is honest. You can come up with a story and tell everyone. But this is instantaneous.

Sculptures by Urs Fischer on display at the Little Ax exhibition at Garage
Sculptures by Urs Fischer on display at the Little Ax exhibition at Garage

Sculptures by Urs Fischer on display at the Little Ax exhibition at Garage

- Do you believe in fairness in art?

- Not even justice, but the natural course of things. An excellent, honest work of art will go to the best gallery or museum. A mediocre work will end up in a place corresponding to it in terms of level, and a bad one, at best, will make it to an average gallery, but most likely, a bad one will not rise higher. The quality of work always determines its future destiny.

- You already have the best galleries and museums.

- Well, you can't control it. The most you can do is keep working.>

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